Attempts

[smokingboot]

I don't know about using AI text to video prompts. The conflict for me is that while I can see how the use of AI may steal professional opportunities from writers and artists, I am not sure if it will do the same for film because no-one is ever going to make the little film clips that I would want to make. It's not the Greg Rutowski problem... is it? Not convinced at all, uneasy. But until there's a conclusion about this in my head, I won't damn myself for play.

So I tried.

For one I did use an image, the one discussed in my earlier post. The result was this.
https://www.vidu.com/share/2789332262460476/587502

For the second I did not use an image, and this is what I got:
https://www.vidu.com/share/2789340278447518/591624

This last I like, because I never asked for the wind, and it works. Of course it's nonsense; I am very lazy with prompts. I don't get exactly what I ask for because I don't really ask for anything. But that may be what makes it interesting. I don't need to create the eagle of my dreams like this because I can do that with words and trust people to see the eagle - my own personal sense of the perfect. But the gap between what one writes and what appears is exciting, as well as sinister and ridiculous. To put in something, get something uncanny out, add to that with the next prompt until one has built a whole narrative/piece of music out of a game of consequences, that's fascinating. Or less coherent than Wonderland. Or both.

Once again, for me it seems AI's most likely creative use is really about developing old principles of surrealism. Interesting. But I think it is fair to say I'm never going to be a Fellini.

Comments

[mallorys_camera]

I like that second video!

Vidu is very painterly.

[smokingboot]

Yes, I like that second video, but am not sure why.

I want to try Nightcafe too, but used up all my free spots years ago. Now I would have to subscribe, and am trying to work out whether to subscribe to both (!) or what to do.

[mallorys_camera]

It's definitely a hobby that costs $$$. Because there is a learning curve! 😀 NightCafe is one of the cheaper AI video sites because it's kind of an AI video backwater (though they do license the Chinese AI video engine Kling, which is pretty amazing.) But it would be great if there were some sort of enterprise software that you could purchase, install, & then learn to your heart's content.

[bleodswean]

The issue really is going to be about creating something new, intellectually and philosophically. Surrealism IS about bending the known into an unknown triggering the subconscious to admit that the unknown is an impossibility but rather a discovery. AI does NOT have an unconscious or subconscious hence it will only ever be a variation of the wheel. I'm concerned, is what I'm trying to say. LOLL. We will stagnate ourselves, overfish evolution, if you will.

[smokingboot]

I hope you are not right but suspect you may be. One of the last painters of the British Surrealist Group was a chum who told me that surrealism cannot exist in the entirety of the new; it takes its identity from incongruity, of items/beings, even styles being together which don't belong. Juxtaposition and distortion is at the heart of it. No familiar shape, no jarring, and hence no surrealism. Is there any new idea anyway? The Tower of Babel is the Lightning Struck Tower is the Bastille is the Ta Keo temple is the Internet. Motifs get added to and taken away from all the time, but where do we find entirely new ones?

This stuff makes my head spin.