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A strange and vivid dream I record before I get ready for London.


It concerns a very familiar part of my dream landscape, the cathedral. I have spoken of it before. In a part of a town reminiscent to Greenwich stands the Cathedral, a building more squat and gothic and long than spired; sometimes I have seen it in light that made the stone look yellowish, others it just looks grey. It has an attached graveyard, and tunnels nearby that will take you far below the earth. The cathedral itself has sunk below ground level too, as has much of the old city around it; I have often wondered why it seems subterranean...recent dreams reveal that the great museum has grown up around it, the museum's roof soaring high above the cathedral, hewn out of a gigantic cave.

In my dream I took [profile] november_girl to that museum; one part of it showed a place of extraordinary wallpapers and designs on the wall, newer ones on top of older ones ad infinitum; the wallpapers were exotic, morroccan in style. [profile] november_girl mentioned something about how you simply peeled them back to see the times and lives of those who had gone before. She seemed fascinated. Later ones were comprised of intricate wooden designs rather than paper ones, I moved past those quickly, I wanted to show her the cathedral.

We found ourselves caught in a conversation with a group of French people about sport (probably the football) and again, I tried to move things on, though embarrassingly I burst into the conversation interrupting something my companion was saying. She took it in laughing good grace but I was conscious of my eagerness making me bad mannered. I was in a huge hurry because for the last 3 or 4 dreams in the vicinity of the cathedral, I have not been able to get to it; there's been subsidence or that part of the museum has been cordoned off, or most usually, the museum has been closing. We hurried there to find the latter was the case, the museum was shutting.

My subconscious clearly is closing the cathedral off to me at the moment. Now all I have to do is work out what the cathedral signifies and I'll know what it is I'm moving away from.

And now. Work.

Date: 2006-07-01 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hybridartifacts.livejournal.com
Some fantastic dream images there-especially a sinking cathedral...I see it sinking deeper and deeper into the earth like a return to some spiritual womb...
Traditionally churches are suppossed to represent men and sexual relationships as well as the obvious-religious beliefs. I think the male thing is taking them as symbols of (usually male) authority. They can also represent ones general spirtitual grounding, a place of sanctuary and protection.
Very personal use of symbols tends to get missed out on by standard attempts of interpretation though.

Date: 2006-07-02 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smokingboot.livejournal.com
I hadn't considered the male authority aspect of the Cathedral. Symbols are very individual, but seeing what others pluck from one's dream is interesting - new perspective, powerful. See me try not to use the word 'resonant' yet again!

The Cathedral is longer than it is tall, it has neither domes nor spires - more Notre Dame than Christchurch, and it certainly looms. For me it's significant that it is in Greenwich, which I associate with a lot of pre-Christian sites; the church is an old site in a place of ancient sites. The whole thing reminds me of the underground cities of Cappadocia, locked under the earth, crumbling even while waiting for the end of the world...but that's only one evocation it gives me. It guts me that I cannot recall the inside of the Cathedral at all, though in my dreams I know it like the back of my hand.

Date: 2006-07-02 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hybridartifacts.livejournal.com
Ah-sounds like a great angle on it-Cappadocia is fascinating-somewhere I would love to visit one day. There certainly are still bits of London that have the past so strong that you can feel the 'old stone'. I am using the old St. pauls a bit like that in a vampire rpg chronicle we are playing (though my players dont know its role yet apart from it being the place where they became vampires-its my intention to gather them there for the end of the world over a thousand years later).
Symbols are often so very individual-it often feels like sifting through the possibilities the ones that strike a cord-my own dreams seem to be endlessly stuck in hotels, often with me not knowing where the room is, or loosing the key-but oddly not in an anxious way. Im getting alittle tired of the endless variations each night though.

Date: 2006-07-01 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romney.livejournal.com
You are lucky to get as far as the wallpaper - in my dreams I sometimes can't even disable the bloody screensaver...

Dream screensavers/wallpapers

Date: 2006-07-02 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smokingboot.livejournal.com
Disable them and you just end up staring at the inner walls of your brainpan.

Nothing there but a few eggy stains and the scars where my frontal lobes once throbbed...

Date: 2006-07-01 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mitchy.livejournal.com
Dreams fascinate me, I always try and make an effort in the mornings to remember what I dreamed and work out the why or the what. Ninety per cent of the time though, I have no clue but it's fun anyway :)

One of these times you're in London, I'd love to meet up for drinks or something. It'd be cool to finally meet you :)

Date: 2006-07-02 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smokingboot.livejournal.com
That would be a totally excellent idea. Let's see what we can arrange:-)

Date: 2006-07-02 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smokingboot.livejournal.com
so, how can I contact you privately?

Date: 2006-07-02 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mitchy.livejournal.com
Sent you an email with details :)

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