Daimon and Duende
Sep. 30th, 2022 08:12 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
smokingbootDrawn in by this;
Finding it's an advert cleverly calling itself The Daimon and Duende. In fact it is selling this:
https://appliedjung.com/art-of-individuation-2022-fb-2/
Almost tempted, but Jung is past it, surely? Aren't they all?
The evidence I've seen of a collective overmind suggests that it is a strange needy thing. Individuation's real and done. Much of what we are seeing in society is an attempt to reverse it, or at least get to the stage of reconnection above all else. We are seeing a desperate scramble back to cells of definition, boxes we can tick and defend together, we are therefore I am. Trouble is, it needs they are not, a sentiment that defines much of Humanity's most heinous behaviour. It's frantic, disrespectful, not very clever. It rewards those who can tap into it with great power. It lulls the Daimon to sleep, it tries to force the Duende into a social construct. If involved with art at at all, it is is the point at which the struggle ends or, more likely, never begins.
It is comfort.
One cannot reconnect with some aspects of society; even if such a thing is wanted, that collective overmind won't have it. There is something ironic about using this photo to sell Jungian lectures; Lorca was shot, Dali exploited, individuation for them was not a thing they could avoid. They were lucky to be applauded for it... and then they were not lucky. Duende and Daimon cannot be explained, but must be experienced. So then what?
On the other hand, I am now extremely unproductive. And so tired. Those stories must be sorted!
And my stories? Though it cannot compare with Lorca's immensity, here sings my Daimon, very weary but still interwoven with Duende that I feel and may be alone in feeling. It's all right not to care for it; I don't know if it cares for you or me.
You won’t shake
Though some clutch at you,
Playing your bones
scraping old brittle words
for new edges
You’ll tell them
I am intensely honest,
I just can’t help
saying the opposite
Of what I mean
You won’t shake
When a slow drum sounds for
one who knew
the old vulture days
And the noise you spat out
When you said
I am intensely dishonest,
I just can’t help
saying exactly
what I mean
held long and sly
like a curved lagoon,
or a clock at midnight
And that’s when
you’ll say nothing at all.
But you’ll shake.
Finding it's an advert cleverly calling itself The Daimon and Duende. In fact it is selling this:
https://appliedjung.com/art-of-individuation-2022-fb-2/
Almost tempted, but Jung is past it, surely? Aren't they all?
The evidence I've seen of a collective overmind suggests that it is a strange needy thing. Individuation's real and done. Much of what we are seeing in society is an attempt to reverse it, or at least get to the stage of reconnection above all else. We are seeing a desperate scramble back to cells of definition, boxes we can tick and defend together, we are therefore I am. Trouble is, it needs they are not, a sentiment that defines much of Humanity's most heinous behaviour. It's frantic, disrespectful, not very clever. It rewards those who can tap into it with great power. It lulls the Daimon to sleep, it tries to force the Duende into a social construct. If involved with art at at all, it is is the point at which the struggle ends or, more likely, never begins.
It is comfort.
One cannot reconnect with some aspects of society; even if such a thing is wanted, that collective overmind won't have it. There is something ironic about using this photo to sell Jungian lectures; Lorca was shot, Dali exploited, individuation for them was not a thing they could avoid. They were lucky to be applauded for it... and then they were not lucky. Duende and Daimon cannot be explained, but must be experienced. So then what?
On the other hand, I am now extremely unproductive. And so tired. Those stories must be sorted!
And my stories? Though it cannot compare with Lorca's immensity, here sings my Daimon, very weary but still interwoven with Duende that I feel and may be alone in feeling. It's all right not to care for it; I don't know if it cares for you or me.
You won’t shake
Though some clutch at you,
Playing your bones
scraping old brittle words
for new edges
You’ll tell them
I am intensely honest,
I just can’t help
saying the opposite
Of what I mean
You won’t shake
When a slow drum sounds for
one who knew
the old vulture days
And the noise you spat out
When you said
I am intensely dishonest,
I just can’t help
saying exactly
what I mean
held long and sly
like a curved lagoon,
or a clock at midnight
And that’s when
you’ll say nothing at all.
But you’ll shake.
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Date: 2022-09-30 01:54 pm (UTC)On a personal level, I come down strongly on the side of individuation. (BIG surprise, right? 😀 )
But with eight billion people fighting to share a planet, I suspect the only way humanity survives is through collectivization. Interestingly, social media appears to be a stronger force pushing collectivization than anything since the Age of Enlightenment took out religion.
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Date: 2022-10-01 09:19 am (UTC)I think that 8 billion people fighting to share a planet will lead to more fighting than planet.
The trouble with collectivisation is that it places conformity above everything else, even when it pretends it is new. It suppresses as viciously as any religion ever did; it has its inquisitors and witch hunters, its zealots, heretics, crusades, excommunications. It is anti-art, anti-excellence anti-humour, anti-freedom. I believe it's the same damned thing it always was.
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Date: 2022-10-01 11:09 am (UTC)But the good thing about conformity—understand I am speaking as a quasi-futurist here, and not as the individual me—is that it's very stable.
Eight billion people can share the planet provided they march in lockstep.
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Date: 2022-09-30 01:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2022-10-01 09:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2022-09-30 02:02 pm (UTC)I do believe that the Christos myth began the individuation process, away from the village. The World Wide Web is the ironic (nothing is ironic) step back into a village consciousness. I'm not sure these are separate from or opposed to the collective unconscious.
Great post!
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Date: 2022-10-01 09:05 am (UTC)It feels to me that in so much as the Christos denotes a personal relationship with the divine,it detaches us from village consciousness. That's a dangerous thing to do. However compassionate the outsider's actions, what the village mind rejects the village may harm. Yet there's something else that intervenes or mitigates, like the 13th fairy turning up when the damage seems irrevocable. Whether this is a greater different consciousness responding to some need that Tammuz or Osiris can't fulfil, is a question. Opposition/ separation? To me it feels like both.
I think your definition of the World Wide Web is exactly right.
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Date: 2022-10-01 02:34 pm (UTC)I'm all about individuation. Thoughts of the hive mind keep me awake at night. And I do think "village" can be deadly in its child-like magical thinking.
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Date: 2022-10-03 08:24 am (UTC)Thoughts of the hive mind keep me awake at night. And I do think "village" can be deadly in its child-like magical thinking. Oh yes, very.